In this episode of Theology Applied, Pastor Joel sits down for a conversation with Pastor Doug Wilson to discuss the necessity of Christians leaving California, as well as some mistakes that are important for California refugees to avoid. 

As a special note: Pastor Joel met with Pastor Wilson back in February 2020. Wilson’s counsel was a significant factor in influencing Joel to leave California himself, and Joel is very grateful. 

*IMPORTANT NOTE: Pastor Joel and his family, along with a few other families, officially said goodbye to California and moved to Hutto, Texas in December 2020. Lord willing, they plan to plant a new church in Texas called Covenant Bible Church.